Tag Archives: United Kingdom Alternative Vote referendum 2011

AV vote should be good for Wales

Mary Ann Sieghart, in today’s Independent, urges us to “Vote Yes for evolution, not revolution”. 

The article, in truth, adds little to the debate as to the rival merits of the Alternative Vote and First Past the Post electoral systems.    Sieghart’s principal argument is the perennial one of the pro-AV lobby, that FPP is “unfair”:

For much of my life, I’ve been doomed to live in places where my vote doesn’t count. Voting for my preferred party has been as useful as tearing up my ballot paper and scattering it like confetti over the canvassers.

The speciousness of the argument is immediately obvious.  Ms Sieghart’s vote counts precisely as much as anyone else’s.  Her problem is that, in the areas in which she has chosen to live, her party hasn’t been sufficiently popular.  That is unfortunate for Ms Sieghart and a good reason  for her to work hard to help increase its local popularity, not for changing the electoral system. 

Sieghart goes on to explain how  AV would improve “fairness”:

Most annoyingly for the voter, it often forces us to vote dishonestly. We can’t cast a ballot for the party we want, but instead have to vote tactically for the party that has the best chance of beating the party we like least. This in itself relies on making assumptions about which party is currently in second place and how other voters in the constituency are likely to act on those assumptions.

Under AV, no vote is a wasted vote. If you want to vote Green or Lib Dem or Monster Raving Loony Party, that’s fine. You can happily put a ’1′ by the party you like best, in the knowledge that your ’2′ and ’3′ will also help to influence the result. The tellers count your votes and – at last – your vote counts.

That argument, too, is well-rehearsed and is also specious.  What Sieghart is saying, in effect, is that, rather than casting your single vote in a way that is, in her terms, “dishonest” under FPP, you should do precisely that with your second vote under AV.  And then do it again with your third vote. 

That, of course, would make sense to someone such as Sieghart, who is a self-confessed third party supporter, because AV is a system weighted in favour of third parties.  But it is an argument for skewed third party political advantage, not for anything that might reasonably be called  fairness.

So nothing really new from Ms Sieghart and, ordinarily, I wouldn’t have commented on her article, had it not been for her display of ignorance of the way politics works in Wales:

Then the Conservatives on the right point to the “danger” of the referendum being carried by Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish votes. Because the devolved assemblies and parliament are up for election next week, voters there are more likely to turn out. They are also more likely to vote “yes” to AV because they have seen different voting systems in action and have experienced their perfectly sensible results.

Actually, most Conservatives I know welcome the fact that the referendum is being held on the same day as the Assembly election.  Since devolution was instituted, voters in Wales have shown a distinct lack of engagement with Assembly elections, a matter of concern to all political parties.  In 2007, turnout was only 43.3 per cent and in no election has it reached 50 per cent.

Having canvassed for Conservative candidates across North Wales over the last few days, I can say that there is considerable interest in the referendum and I am pretty sure that voters will turn out to express their opinion on AV.  That should, in turn,  boost turnout in the Assembly election, which can only be a good thing. 

But for Ms Sieghart to suggest that the Welsh will embrace AV because of their unqualified enthusiasm for the exquisite intricacies of the D’Hondt system of proportional representation is to take speciousness to a wholly new level.

AV gets thumbs down in the Bay

Self, Cllr Cheryl Carlisle, Roger Cummins

Disappointingly, the weather has broken today.  The barbecue Easter we were promised seems to have gone the way of last year’s barbecue summer.

Nevertheless, the Saturday street market in Colwyn Bay was bustling when I and a group of Conservatives did some leafleting for the No to AV campaign.

I’m pleased to say that we received a very positive response, many people observing that AV was a very contrived method of selecting an MP.  If we do win, it will be the straightforward simplicity of FPP that carries the day.

 We were joined very briefly by a group of Plaid Cymru campaigners, led by Phil Edwards, a local councillor.  I asked Phil where Plaid stood on AV and was told that they are urging people to vote “Ie”.  

A little surprising, perhaps, when you read this analysis.  Sadly, however, I have to conclude that the prospect of a Plaid wipeout, albeit immensely desirable, is neverthess insufficient reason to opt for a dodgy electoral system.

The worst thing about AV

Had a very encouraging meeting this morning to discuss the issue of Colwyn Bay pier; another, I hope, will follow in about three weeks.  It’s too early to report what happened, save to say that I am more hopeful about the pier’s future than I have been for a very long time.

This afternoon, I went over to Delyn to campaign with Matt Wright, the hard-working local candidate.  Did an awful lot of walking, which really wasn’t too much of a hardship, given the wonderful weather we are enjoying.

In Mountain View Avenue, Mynydd Isa, I stopped to chat with a gentleman who was creosoting his fence.  How, I asked,  did he feel about AV?

“Disastrous,” he replied.

“Do you realise that if we’d had AV at the last general election, that [expletive deleted] man Gordon Brown would still be running the country?  It doesn’t bear thinking about.”

I must confess that the possibility hadn’t occurred to me, but it is probably the most compelling argument against the Alternative Vote system I have yet heard. 

Sack the speechwriter

Watching the BBC Ten O’Clock News, I catch Ed Miliband  earnestly assuring us that the AV referendum offers “the chance to choose hope over fear”.

No, it doesn’t.  It offers an opportunity to express an opinion as to which electoral system is fairer.  Nothing else.  Hope and fear don’t enter the equation.  It’s a really silly, hackneyed, unoriginal thing to say.

Every time I hear Miliband speak, I wonder why he persists in employing a speechwriter of such stunningly platitudinous banality.   Doesn’t he want to be Prime Minister?